Sorry for your loss, wishing you all the love and support you need right now.
Apostate Kate
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SAD NEWS. MY FATHER HAS DIED
by badboy inonly about 15 minutes ago, i learned that my father died up the hospital this morning.
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What words of comfort can you give to an ex-witness who is very depressed?
by Warlock inthere is someone who posts on this board who is very depressed.
life can throw you curves and it can be hard enough without the excess baggage of having been a witness.. can you please help her with some kind words?.
warlock.
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Apostate Kate
That's right! She is not alone. I being a woman am more familiar with the issues of a depressed woman than men.
We are nurturers but have a hard time learning to nurture ourselves, as if we do not matter as much as our children, husbands, family...
Sometimes we have to spend that last dollar on ourselves or the first dollar for that matter!
We need medical care, counseling, shopping trips, our own opinions, lunch dates with girlfriends, and we have the right to make choices that people do not agree with.
I have gone the medicine route for depression long term but really don't like them unless you are really feeling suicidal, but, they are finding more and more that some meds will make you more suicidal. So do your research before taking.
Fresh natural foods like raw fruit, veggies, seeds and nuts help too. In fact I have not had any mood disorders since I radically changed my diet.
Love yourself, you are worth loving! Set high standards for yourself and how people treat you. I like Dr Phil's saying; "We teach people how to treat us."
Hope you feel better soon
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What words of comfort can you give to an ex-witness who is very depressed?
by Warlock inthere is someone who posts on this board who is very depressed.
life can throw you curves and it can be hard enough without the excess baggage of having been a witness.. can you please help her with some kind words?.
warlock.
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Apostate Kate
When I was depressed I held it in and did not want to make other people uncomfortable with my dark feelings, but I needed someone that would listen and actually care.
Because it is ok to feel that way.
I hope you have someone you can trust to talk to and not face your sadness alone.
Don't hold the feelings inside, reach out to a friend or a professional counselor if you must.
Because you are worth being heard. You deserve to be comforted. You are allowed to be sad, angry, frustrated, afraid..it's all ok. Just not to feel them alone.
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Did You Ever REALLY Love "Jehovah God"?
by minimus inlooking back, honestly, do you think you ever really loved jehovah??
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Apostate Kate
I loved him like a child will love an abusive father.
When I got to know Him better I was so happy to find He really wasn't the creep the WT told me he was.
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Apostate Kate
What is it!???
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Ok I give, what starts?
That looks like fanny paddles and a net, don't tell me that is some kind of sport that I have never heard about.
I consider my self quite worldly and then this...
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My Baby Boy
by mrsjones5 injoshua is on his first fieldtrip.
his class is at the children's museum.
i know he will have a lot of fun.
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Apostate Kate
Awe he sounds so adorable. I'm so happy for you that you have help with his development if there is any problem. He is going to have a great day.
My third son is a miracle child. I did not know that my uterus was filled with fibroid tumors, endometriosis and precancer when I got pregnant. I was told to terminate the pregnancy or I would die. Everyone tried to talk me into it. They said I would bleed out when I miscarried. I didn't known at that point that my liver was being danaged too from my genetic blood disease that had not been diagnosed or treated yet.
My son is 18, an incredible young man. He was born with a severe case of ADHD. I had to protect him his whole life from well meaning family and school people who wanted to punish him into shape.
He may never have a High School diploma but he is a musical savant and works hard at his job. He builds the playground at places like McDonalds and Chucky Cheese. He gets paid well and some day should make a musical career since he is amazingly talented.
Our children are precious gifts
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What XMas Present Would You Like This Year???
by minimus inone thing that jws do, whether they were "strong in the truth" or not is accept presents.
even if they don't "celebrate" thanksgiving, they'd still take the turkey from the employer.
if someone sent out a birthday gift or christmas present, a witness would still take but never givein return.
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Apostate Kate
What I want for Christmas is a committed happy volunteer for every lonely Senior on my "Adopt a Senior" list.
And a saddle so I can ride our crazy horse.
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gift's [in] men
by darth frosty inthis has been posted before but i just was thinking about eph 4:8 where the nwt renders it gifts [in] men while most other bible render it gift's to men.
i just looked this scripture up in the kindom interlinear and sure enough, it renders the greek as 'gifts to the men'.
you have got to love the balls that this cult has.
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Apostate Kate
There are so many blatant mistakes I quit counting. Here are Barnes notes on that passage in case you'd like an elaboration it's kinda long but very interesting;
Eph 4:8
Verse 8. Wherefore he saith. The word "he" is not in the original;
and it may mean "the Scripture saith," or "God saith." The point of
the argument here is, that Christ, when he ascended to heaven,
obtained certain gifts for men, and that those gifts are bestowed
upon his people in accordance with this. To prove that, he adduces
this passage from Ps 68:18. Much perplexity has been felt in regard
to the principle on which Paul quotes this Psalm, and applies it to
the ascension of the Redeemer. The Psalm seems to have been
composed on the occasion of removing the ark of the covenant from
Kirjath-jearim to Mount Zion, 2Sa 6:1, seq. It is a song of triumph,
celebrating the victories of, JEHOVAH, and particularly the victories
which had been achieved when the ark was at the head of the army.
It appears to have no relation to the Messiah; nor would it probably
occur to any one, on reading it, that it referred to his ascension,
unless it had been so quoted by the apostle. Great difficulty has
been felt, therefore, in determining on what principle Paul applied it
to the ascension of the Redeemer. Some have supposed that the
Psalm had a primary reference to the Messiah; some that it referred
to him in only a secondary sense; some that it is applied to him by
way of "accommodation;" and some that he merely uses the words
as adapted to express him idea, as a man adopts words which are
familiar to him, and which will express his thoughts, though not
meaning to say that the words had any such reference originally.
Storr supposes that the words were used by the Ephesian
Christians in their hymns, and that Paul quoted them as containing a
sentiment which was admitted among them. This is possible; but it
is mere conjecture. It has been also supposed that the tabernacle
was a type of Christ; and that the whole Psalm, therefore, having
original reference to the tabernacle, might be applied to Christ as the
antitype. But this both conjectural and fanciful. On the various
modes adopted to account for the difficulty, the reader may consult
Rosenmuller, in loc. To me it seems plain that the Psalm had
original reference to the bringing up the ark to Mount Zion, and is a
triumphal song. In the song or psalm, the poet shows why God was
to be praised--on account of his greatness, and his benignity to
men, Eph 4:1-6. He then recounts the doings of God in former
times--particularly his conducting his people through the wilderness,
and the fact that his enemies were discomfited before him, Eph
4:7-12. All this refers to the God, the symbols of whose presence
were on the tabernacle, and accompanying the ark. He then speaks
of the various fortunes that had befallen the ark of the covenant. It
had lain among the pots, Eph 4:13, yet it had formerly been white as
snow when God scattered kings by it, Eph 4:14. He then speaks of
the hill of God--the Mount Zion to which the ark was about to be
removed, and says that it is an "high hill"--" high as the hills of
Bashan," the hill where God desired to dwell for ever, Eph 4:16. God
is then introduced as ascending that hill, encompassed with
thousands of angels, as in Mount Sinai; and the poet says that, in
doing it, he had triumphed over his enemies, and had led captivity
captive, Eph 4:18. The fact that the ark of God thus ascended the
hill of Zion, the place of rest; that it was to remain there as its
permanent abode, no more to be carried about at the head of
armies, was the proof of its triumph. It had made everything captive;
it had subdued every foe; and its ascent there would be the means
of obtaining invaluable gifts for men. Mercy and truth would go forth
from that mountain; and the true religion would spread abroad, even
to the rebellious, as the results of the triumph of God, whose symbol
was over the tabernacle and the ark. The placing the ark there was
the proof of permanent victory, and would be connected with most
important benefits to men. The "ascending on high," therefore, in the
Psalm, refers, as it seems to me, to the ascent of the symbol of the
Divine Presence accompanying the ark on Mount Zion, or to the
placing it "on high" above all its foes. The remainder of the Psalm
corresponds with this view. This ascent of the ark on Mount Zion;
this evidence of its triumph over all the foes of God; this permanent
residence of the ark there; and this fact that its being established
there would be followed with the bestowment of invaluable gifts to
men, might be regarded as a BEAUTIFUL EMBLEM Of the
ascension of the Redeemer to heaven. There were strong points of
resemblance. He also ascended on high. His ascent was the proof
of victory over his foes. He went there for a permanent abode. And
his ascension was connected with the bestowment of important
blessings to men. It is as such emblematic language, I suppose,
that the apostle makes the quotation. It did not originally refer to
this; but the events were so similar in many points that the one
would suggest the other, and the same language would describe
both. It was language familiar to the apostle; language that would
aptly express his thoughts, and language that was not improbably
applied to the ascension of the Redeemer by Christians at that time.
The phrase, therefore, "he saith"--legei-or "it saith," or "the
Scripture saith," means, "it is said;" or, "this language will properly
express the fact under consideration, to wit, that there is grace given
to each one of us, or that the means are furnished by the Redeemer
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Resurrection: Jehovah or Jesus?
by betterdaze inwho will resurrect of the dead: jehovah or jesus?
according to the society?
according to scripture?
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Apostate Kate
John 1:1 In <en> the beginning <arche> was <en> the Word <logos>, and <kai> the Word <logos> was <en> with <pros> God <theos>, and <kai> the Word <logos> was <en> God <theos>.
3056. logos
Search for G3056 in KJVSLlogoV logos log'-os
from 3004; something said (including the thought); by
implication, a topic (subject of discourse), also
reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension,
a computation; specially, (with the article in John) the
Divine Expression (i.e. Christ):--account, cause,
communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to
do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason,
+ reckon, remove, say(-ing), shew, X speaker, speech,
talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings,
treatise, utterance, word, work.Jesus is all these things of God according to the Bible.